Indiana University Athletics
Compliance Question Of The Week
Compliance Question Of The Week
Question 1:
Can we have "All-Star" games at camp?
Answer 1:
Well, this is a kinda-sorta one. You can have, within the curriculum of camp and with teaching and demonstrating as the point, a single game consisting of the higher level campers with some camp staff (and ONLY camp staff) mixed in. One key is that the remainder of the camp participants watch the high level game as the learning/educational experience. And if "All-Star" campers receive a memento, it needs to have been "pre-paid" for by the camp attendees as a whole.
Question 2:
So, we can have tryouts at camp then?
Answer 2:
No, no and no again. Your camps are NOT tryouts and should not be perceived to be, or disguised that way. And they're not for recruiting either, are they? Those very short (one day or less) camps which are cheap and serve only to get prospects here on campus, run `em around for a bit then do an unofficial visit...THOSE are the camps that the NCAA hates vehemently and is coming after big time. Make sure you can defend what you're doing, and if it ain't a camp, then it's a tryout. You have been....advised. And if you insist on "testing" the campers in some fashion, you need to have a long talk with us beforehand so we can set the parameters for that too.
Question 3:
Who can work for us at camp?
Answer 3:
Let's leave men's and women's basketball out of this, because both have heavy restrictions on camp employees, and if you can't pass the FBI / CIA / Special Forces background check, you ain't working at men's basketball camp! As for the rest of you, you CAN employ anyone other than a prospect, but everyone must be paid a justifiable amount; no-one gets more for athletic or "what they bring to the table in terms of recruits" manner. And EVERY single employee needs to be identified in full on your post-camp paperwork, even those out-of-town visitor-type folk who are just kinda helping out because, y'know, we KNOW them and all. Family, friends and hangers-on too. Who are you? Why are you at my camp? I really wanna know.
Question 4:
Last one - can we work at other people's camps? (Noninstitutional).
Answer 4:
Basketball - mostly no; Football - yes, but only during your declared 30 (2x15) day period. Other folk - yes, but you MUST be pre-approved by compliance beforehand. There is a form that needs to be filled out and we WILL send a similar form to the organizer of the noninstitutional camp so he/she can verify that it is being conducted in accordance with all NCAA rules. If you promise to work and make plans, and then hand in your form to us two days before, you might be crying off that commitment. Get it done. And working at noninstitutional camps can be done ANYWHERE location-wise. but YOUR camps (in name/ANY percentage of ownership) have to be within 100 miles of IU, though that MIGHT change and we'll update you if it does....let's hope. IU Football camps can be in-state anywhere.
Question 1:
Can we have "All-Star" games at camp?
Answer 1:
Well, this is a kinda-sorta one. You can have, within the curriculum of camp and with teaching and demonstrating as the point, a single game consisting of the higher level campers with some camp staff (and ONLY camp staff) mixed in. One key is that the remainder of the camp participants watch the high level game as the learning/educational experience. And if "All-Star" campers receive a memento, it needs to have been "pre-paid" for by the camp attendees as a whole.
Question 2:
So, we can have tryouts at camp then?
Answer 2:
No, no and no again. Your camps are NOT tryouts and should not be perceived to be, or disguised that way. And they're not for recruiting either, are they? Those very short (one day or less) camps which are cheap and serve only to get prospects here on campus, run `em around for a bit then do an unofficial visit...THOSE are the camps that the NCAA hates vehemently and is coming after big time. Make sure you can defend what you're doing, and if it ain't a camp, then it's a tryout. You have been....advised. And if you insist on "testing" the campers in some fashion, you need to have a long talk with us beforehand so we can set the parameters for that too.
Question 3:
Who can work for us at camp?
Answer 3:
Let's leave men's and women's basketball out of this, because both have heavy restrictions on camp employees, and if you can't pass the FBI / CIA / Special Forces background check, you ain't working at men's basketball camp! As for the rest of you, you CAN employ anyone other than a prospect, but everyone must be paid a justifiable amount; no-one gets more for athletic or "what they bring to the table in terms of recruits" manner. And EVERY single employee needs to be identified in full on your post-camp paperwork, even those out-of-town visitor-type folk who are just kinda helping out because, y'know, we KNOW them and all. Family, friends and hangers-on too. Who are you? Why are you at my camp? I really wanna know.
Question 4:
Last one - can we work at other people's camps? (Noninstitutional).
Answer 4:
Basketball - mostly no; Football - yes, but only during your declared 30 (2x15) day period. Other folk - yes, but you MUST be pre-approved by compliance beforehand. There is a form that needs to be filled out and we WILL send a similar form to the organizer of the noninstitutional camp so he/she can verify that it is being conducted in accordance with all NCAA rules. If you promise to work and make plans, and then hand in your form to us two days before, you might be crying off that commitment. Get it done. And working at noninstitutional camps can be done ANYWHERE location-wise. but YOUR camps (in name/ANY percentage of ownership) have to be within 100 miles of IU, though that MIGHT change and we'll update you if it does....let's hope. IU Football camps can be in-state anywhere.